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Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 5:32 pm
by RodgerWelham
The front brake on my 200cc Arrow doesn't work - I can push the bike along with it held on. The linings are probably original as it hasn't been on the road since '81 and done only 22,000 miles. The linings are 4mm thick.

I have been on to Saftec about new linings but unsure what to go for. They do soft linings and extra thicknesses. It seems to me that have a thicker lining would make it more effective. Does anyone know the internal diameter of the standard front drum - I don't have anything that I could measure it accurately with. Has anyone used thicker linings or soft ones?

Cheers, Rodger

Re: Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 9:54 pm
by bh.sprint
Hello Roger,

The brakes are nominally 6'' diameter and if they have not been skimmed will be within normal machining tolerances of that measurement.

I've have most of my brakes done/relined by Classic Brake Services of Whalley Bridge, using rivets to secure the linings. The linings are black with another material visible as they wear.

One brake was machined to size to suit the drum and worked OK.

Generally the front brake is not easy to improve -- extended brake arms help a little,alloy hubs seem better than the cast ones, TLS brakes help a bit more and Honda or similar hubs work even better but are not easy to fit.

The brake on the left is a T.L. Shoe, there are a few of these around done by owners for their own use, the right one I did as an experiment and it is a little better. The other brake is from a Japaneses bike and does work very well.

Brian H.

Re: Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 6:48 pm
by RodgerWelham
Hello Brian

Thanks for your message. I've had look at Classic Brake Services - looks good. A long way away from me though :(

Have you had thicker than standard linings? Did you have to make your own extended brake arm?

Cheers, Rodger

Re: Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 10:13 pm
by bh.sprint
Hi Roger,

There are others who offer brake lining - Villiers Services in the West Midlands and Friction Services in the Bristol area. I bought some relined shoes from Keith Harding at the Stafford Show a couple of weeks ago, I think he still has some left.

Most of my brakes have had standard thickness linings apart from the Japanese one which had linings machined to size to de-tune it and make it progressive in operation and less likely to grab.
I've heard of riders who hve had the linings machined to drum size and they say the brake does improve.

I had to make the longer brake lever and also move the brake anchorage point on the one shown not ideal but it does have a bit more bite although needs adjusting more often.

Brian H.

Re: Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:42 pm
by RodgerWelham
Thanks once again Brian, very useful. I will have a look at those two companies but as before, a long way away from me - I'm in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk (don't mention Draganfly).

Cheers, Rodger

Re: Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 8:17 pm
by bh.sprint
Hello Roger,

One of the long standing two stroke members of the AOMCC lives not far from you , he may be able to help-- I can give you his number on the private message facility if you want to contact him.

Brian H.

Re: Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 12:47 pm
by terrylangley
Hi Rodger. I had an Arrow front brake relined and machined to the drum diameter by Classic brake services. You only need to mail the brake plate assy if you do not want the drum machined. Mine was better but not spectacular. On my current project I have fitted a Suzuki TLS brake which is spectacular but as Brian has said is a lot of work.

Terry Langley.

Re: Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:36 pm
by RodgerWelham
Hello Brian H

Thanks for your message. I don't know how to use the private message facility. Would this member mind if I called him out of the blue?
Cheers, Rodger

Re: Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 5:38 pm
by RodgerWelham
Hello Terry

Can you tell me please which Suzuki did you get the TLS brake off?

Cheers, Rodger

Re: Arrow Front Brake

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:36 pm
by bh.sprint
Hi Roger,

I tried to message you but the facility was very slow to respond, so contact me on info@arielbike.co.uk and I'll give you the number(s).

Brian H. Sheffield