Rigid rear Stand - issue

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Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby Keith.owen » Tue May 12, 2020 10:57 am

Hi,
I have found of late that my rear stand is taking quite a hammering, in particular due to the poor state of the roads in my area; the stand keeps thumping up against the frame as a result of the bumps in the road, (I manage to avoid most of them!).

I have included a picture below and imagine this is not an uncommon occurance?

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My question is if anyone has come up with a simple but effective may of countering this? I tried a bit of rubber hose split down one side and tie-wrapped in place, but it lasted all of five minutes before the stand pierced through. Any thoughts anyone? :?

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Re: Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby JohnnyBeckett » Tue May 12, 2020 1:16 pm

can you make a clip or spring to hold the stand up and keep it from moving around and rattling :?:

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Re: Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Tue May 12, 2020 5:10 pm

Does the stand has a solid 'horizontal' part ?
That would make it heavy and more likely to bounce.
If not, a clip like Johnny writes or just a bungy would help out

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Re: Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby Keith.owen » Wed May 13, 2020 9:21 am

Hi,
I guess a clip of some sort will have to be the solution. Not ideal because it is a bit of a balancing act getting it onto the rear stand. oK once I'm behind the bike with the stand on the floor and my foot on it, but until I get to that point all is a bit precarious on anything but a level surface!!

Unfortunately I don't have a side stand, which would make like easier!!!

Thanks for your input and keep safe!!!

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Re: Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby dave.pitt » Wed May 13, 2020 7:16 pm

I have the same problem, but I assume it's from years of the stand banging up against the detent when pushed off it.
For several years I've developed a technique which is the reverse of putting the bike ON the stand, that is to wedge my booted foot behind the thing and control it's return.
I'm not aware that mine flops around behind me as I'm going over potholes! It may do...
The problem with all the Ariel rear stands is that the spring being one-sided excessively loads the pivot on the spring side, leading to an oval hole, which then means that the stand twists one way on return and wears the detent.
Last time I renewed the pivot holes in the stand I had a bit of extra weld gobbed on the stand detent, so it more easily catches the worn frame abutment.

An amusing story... or not?
One night about 27 years ago (!) I was just leaving the Selly Oak branch meeting at 11:30pm, along with several other members. I started the old banger, leapt aboard, pushed it off it's stand, and disappeared into the night...
As I pushed it off it's stand there was a 'tink' on the back of my helmet. I heard it and felt it. I thought it was a twig off one of the trees I was parked beneath.
When I got home I found out what it was... it was the detent from the rear stand. Snapped off! The stand was buried in the tip of the now crumpled back mudguard. Nice!
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Re: Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby PeterW » Wed May 13, 2020 8:52 pm

Fit a mud-flap on the rear guard and fit a spring clip to that to hold the stand?

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Re: Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby Keith.owen » Fri May 15, 2020 2:47 pm

Hi,
thanks for the thoughts.
I took the old gal out today since I hade a lunch time conference call from the office. The stand bangs constantly as I go over the bumps in the road.
I must admit that I get on the bike and roll it off the stand before then starting it (stood astride).
This is not life threatening, but irritating and will only get worse, I fear. The trouble is getting behind the bike when it is off the stand, particularly somehow keeping it up whilst fiddling with something to secure the stand; could be fun!

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Re: Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby dave.owen » Fri May 15, 2020 3:54 pm

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Fit a side stand, modified Enfield india.

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Re: Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby roger.fellows » Sat May 16, 2020 8:05 pm

I've always done the sreadeagle act with right foot preventing the flip-up, but it is awkward.

Is the spring strong enough?

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Re: Rigid rear Stand - issue

Postby will_curry » Sat May 16, 2020 9:45 pm

The steering damper is your friend when performing the spreadeagle act.

I tighten it before I climb off. Right hand on grab rail/ lifting handle, shuffle carefully
until right foot can depress the stand to the ground. Move left hand from handlebar
to underneath the saddle frame at the front. Check that your right foot isn't going
to the squashed by the rear wheel and that if there is a left-hand silencer it isn't
going to take a lump out of your ankle. Lift with right hand and lean to the right.

Provided your right foot wasn't too far under the stand all should be well.


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