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New Ariel 350 NG owner

Postby Andrus.Luuding » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:41 pm

Hi to all,
New to Ariels and freshly joined so I'd say an introduction is in order... Been involved with bikes since i was 7. Mostly with bikes from great Russia as Im from Estonia. But also bikes from Germany and US. Lately I have become an owner of 39' 350 NG which has registration date 01.01.1939. Bike needs a lot of work but otherwise it wouldnt be much fun. Needless to say I Hope to get some support in this restoration process from Old Arielists.
Have already sent and email to Ariel club regarding this bike and hope soon i will receive some more info as to how it rolled off production line. Bike actually carries copper lable on chainguard from representative in Estonia at that time so hopefully there is some information around. Would be interesting to know how many of these beautiful bikes ended up here back then.
Frame, motor and gearbox numbers indicate that it is 39' model. Would really appeciate if someone could share some info as to color combination for that year export bikes. It appears to be black with chrome/painted rims. Was there also some striping on those rims? Also would be good to know if saddle is original? Have just seen Ariels with Black leather so bit strange but can be. Also would like to know what sort of finishing was used on bolts, washers etc was it chrome or some other plating used at that time? As far as i can see bike has front and rear lights and exhaust from some other models. Anything else?
Might be surprise to some but engine on this bike is actually in running condition :) and Can be started without a problem.
Anyway Im looking forward to spend "some" sleepless nights on this project...

Cheers,
Andrus
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Re: New Ariel 350 NG owner

Postby adrie.degraaff » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:01 pm

The lights and silensers are wrong but further a very original NG 350.

The amount of crome on it now is correct, don't ad more.

I would't even restore it, just replace the items in the first line.
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Postby john.nash » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:23 pm

I'm with Adrie.
Only replace the bits that need replacing (i.e. wrecked or non functioning)
If it were me I wouldn't even clean it ....
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Re: New Ariel 350 NG owner

Postby Andrus.Luuding » Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:21 pm

Thanks for input. Have thought of leaving it this way but wouldnt look very nice with new parts on it. Unless someone knows how to make new exhaust to look like 70 years old? :) Also got another engine from '37 and another gearbox with the bike. At least its in a warm and dry place for now so have some time to think about it and to do some research.
Could somebody tell me which years Fishtail exhaust was used on such bike. Fishtail like on a poster below. Is there any chance my bike could be DeLux version or what this even stands for when it comes to different options / extras on a bike? On a tank there is also place for clock which is closed off by blank.
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Re: New Ariel 350 NG owner

Postby adrie.degraaff » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:10 pm

This photo is 1938, '39 is differend.

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Postby Andrus.Luuding » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:18 pm

Yes indeed. Havent been able to find such photo of '39 just yet. Was just wondering if such exhaust was option also on '39.

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Re: New Ariel 350 NG owner

Postby john.nash » Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:26 pm

Andrus.Luuding wrote:... Unless someone knows how to make new exhaust to look like 70 years old? :) ...


Easy.. ride it around and don't wash it for 3-6 months..
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Postby nevhunter » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:50 pm

DO remove and thoroughly clean the oil tank. There is usually hard sludge on the bottom and it is quite hard to remove it Tthere is a sludge plug in the flywheel that you can access from the plate on the bottom of the crankcase. clean it also. Check that you have some oil/grease mix in the gearbox and oilt the primary drive. It is missing the lower chainguard but many are like that. I would not restoree it either. An original bike is "special" nevhunter

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Postby brenton.roy » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:55 am

Hi Andrus, the mufflers and headlight look to be 50's (ish) BMW. If not too rusty, they will make great swaps or ebay material. I can't see the taillight properly, but it looks to be a Bosch from the same BMW era.
I've never seen (which may not mean much!) an NG with original chrome rims and the front brake dust plate - although I'm sure they would have been available to order.
I have a very similar '37 NG that was in this condition and I kick myself daily for not leaving it as it was...
I think this fishtail was used pre war - maybe '34 or '35 on. The brochures in the club archive will give you a better idea.
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Re: New Ariel 350 NG owner

Postby adrie.degraaff » Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:18 pm

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