Stupid question No. 26

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Stupid question No. 26

Postby Phil B » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:45 pm

Forgive me, I’m very green with these beasties, although I’ve been round bikes for over four decades.

I want to take the badges off the tank to spray it this back end, but...

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How on earth do the remove???
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Re: Stupid question No. 26

Postby Phil B » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:48 pm

In case it’s not clear, they appear (to me) to be riveted
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Re: Stupid question No. 26

Postby simon.holyfield » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:13 pm

It's solder in the screw heads...
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Re: Stupid question No. 26

Postby Phil B » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:20 pm

Really? That’s not a favourite answer.

Easy ro remove or a disaster to get off and re-solder Simon?

I’m just thinking I’ll be putting lots of time in on the tank finish, last thing I need is a blob of solder on my laquer.
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Re: Stupid question No. 26

Postby alan.moore » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:30 pm

I think, as 'Simon says' they are screws but the slot in the heads are soldered over. If you are re-painting the tank then melt the solder with a decent soldering iron and wipe he solder from the slot. Then remove the screw. When refitting just use a stainless screw and leave the slot unsoldered. Or fill it with some fine filler and paint it with a brush with some off silver paint...no-one will know the difference.
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Re: Stupid question No. 26

Postby simon.holyfield » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:33 pm

It's soft solder, try a Stanley knife, some sort of engraving tool or maybe grind a hard bit of steel (masonry nails are handy) to carve the solder out of the slot in the screw. Masking tape to protect the paint.

Or you could use a soldering iron and a solder sucker.
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Re: Stupid question No. 26

Postby Phil B » Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:58 pm

Scary stuff. Thanks. Probably! ;-D
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Re: Stupid question No. 26

Postby Bob.Murphy » Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:53 pm

My first thought was a 'Solder Pump' as well.

I have been intending to get one of these for the last 60 years, its time I got on with it :lol: .

https://www.maplin.co.uk/p/maplin-de-solder-pump-n40ch

Good luck with putting the badges back after the tank is painted (post a picture 8-) ).

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Re: Stupid question No. 26

Postby simon.holyfield » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:05 pm

I feel that I should attempt to replace the solder in my badge screw heads. I'm just not sure that I'm brave enough.
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Re: Stupid question No. 26

Postby paul.jameson » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:25 pm

Gentlemen,

It can be done - see my 1936 4G tank - but I will admit that getting the ball of solder the right size and shape isn't too easy.

The screws are 3BA by the way and Jerry Mortimore used to sell screws with a bulge representing the solder blob, working on the basis that most of us have poor eyesight these days so we don't notice the slot !
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