Strange HS frame

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Strange HS frame

Postby adrie.degraaff » Wed Aug 29, 2018 7:16 am

This HS frame is forsale, i have told the owner that the number looks like a restamp, what is the opinion of others.

It's an all standard frame no HS features only a broken-off mid rear tank mount, could that be with number 8 of swinging arm frames?

It looks like it's bein filed and a smear of acid to make it old.
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Re: Strange HS frame

Postby paul.jameson » Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:05 pm

Have we any more photos of the frame?
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Re: Strange HS frame

Postby adrie.degraaff » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:07 pm

There where but they where to small, i could barely see; a standard road going frame and forktop with lefthand exhaust-footrest support.

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Re: Strange HS frame

Postby adrie.degraaff » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:24 pm

Here a real 1954 number and the HS picture.
I am sure the 108 is a metric stamping.
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Re: Strange HS frame

Postby roger.fellows » Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:54 pm

Is the serif a dead giveaway?

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Re: Strange HS frame

Postby paul.jameson » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:00 pm

I remain of the opinion that it could, or could not, be genuine. The big question to my mind is the HS prefix before the KSS. I have never seen this before BUT if the frame is genuine then it is one of the very first swinging arm HS frames produced at the time the very first swinging arm non-HS frames were produced. It would be easy for them to get confused in the factory so the HS prefix just could be genuine. What is certain is that someone has worked on the bike to fit alloy hub sliders to single sided hub forks (or vice versa). I have seen this done before but only by a serious Ariel enthusiast - which doesn't help us one bit with this question.
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Re: Strange HS frame

Postby johnnelson » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:21 pm

Hello Adrie,
Its providence may be in question, but i might be interested in buying it, do you have the sellers details ?

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Re: Strange HS frame

Postby adrie.degraaff » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:16 am

Yes, Jorgen Anderson, <Ariel.andersen@godmail.dk>

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Re: Strange HS frame

Postby johnnelson » Sat Sep 01, 2018 10:16 am

Thank you

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Re: Strange HS frame

Postby ralfarvid » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:46 pm

Denmark ordered a few HS frames with sidecar frame lugs. KSS108 is a HS delivered to Denmark.


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