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Re: Looking for trouble Mk2 Sq4

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:37 pm
by paul.jameson
Back in 2006, before Romania joined the EU (and the roads got improved) we entered the country from Guyla in Hungary and rode roughly eastwards to a rally in Turda. We came out again via Cluj Napojca towards Debrechen and then on to Kosice in Slovakia. A full account of the trip appeared in Cheval de Fer shortly afterwards.

So you will just have to join the Ariel Owners Motor Cycle Club. www.arielownersmcc.co.uk Go ahead and do so - it will be one of the very best ways you spend money this year - or any other year.

Re: Looking for trouble Mk2 Sq4

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:46 am
by KLester
Just out of idle curiosity I was wondering which swinging arm frames are the easiest to fit a Sq4 engine and gearbox in to?
(before any purists send out the hit squad I did say "idle curiosity":)

Re: Looking for trouble Mk2 Sq4

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 7:43 am
by john.whiting
featherbed or replica f/bed is easy to do,and many have been done....Dont use the Burman box,use a AMC...much better box with proper oilseals...........Check out Noriel"

Re: Looking for trouble Mk2 Sq4

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:25 pm
by paul.jameson
I apologise for this response in advance - but the best and easiest swinging arm frame to fit a Square Four engine into is of course the Healey 1000/4 frame.
I sold my swinging arm Square Four kit last week. The argument went "Why do I need a swinging arm Square Four when I have a Healey?" (The swinging arm Square Four kit involved a 1954 swinging arm frame modified to take the Square Four engine).

Re: Looking for trouble Mk2 Sq4

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:26 pm
by KLester
Many thanks to everyone who has shared their knowledge. I will now be a right pain in the .... when I finally get one:)) Be warned.
With thanks again from a sunny Burgundy.

Re: Looking for trouble Mk2 Sq4

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:12 pm
by klaus gerhard
Hello KLester,
If you are looking for a Ariel Swingarmkit for a Square4 engine I might be able to help. Send me a PM.
Regards Klaus

Re: Looking for trouble Mk2 Sq4

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:06 pm
by KevinOToole
I have always been a Triumph twin guy but like you I thought it would be nice to have a square four.
I bought a 1958 Mk2, earlier this year. It's lucky I'm retired... it took me three engine rebuilds before I was happy with it! New con rods, big end shells and new main bearings. Pistons and bore were OK. Big ends and main bearing journals were all OK. I had problems stopping oil leaks in the head area but all OK after fitting an Otto gasket. I did reseal all the pipes and fittings on the head at the same time. I had to cut extra keyways in the camshaft sprocket to get the valve timing spot on. There was already a morgo pump fitted. I would never do an oil change with out taking the timing cover off and bleeding the pump. I have fitted and oil filter.
At one point in the summer, I was wondering if I'd done the right thing.... but now I'm happy with the engine, I know I did the right thing. It seems very happy and vibration free at 65 to 70 mph, two up. During a two week holiday, We went to the Annual Rally in Amsterdam and although we took the bike on the back of our truck, we did 800 trouble free miles in two weeks.
I have converted to 12v and fitted an alternator.
I don't want to see the inside of a square four engine for a long time!
I hope this helps.....