1950 red hunter - nh

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1950 red hunter - nh

Postby BrianSteytler » Mon May 13, 2013 2:12 pm

anyone know where i can get a copy of the wiring diagramme for a 1950 nh? as the spark seems to have vanished overnight (literally) and i know 'nowt about mag/dynos.

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Re: 1950 red hunter - nh

Postby john.nash » Mon May 13, 2013 2:33 pm

magnetos don't have " wiring" as such.
You are simply spinning coils of wire inside magnets, generating electricity.
Some wonderful stuff with primary/secondary coils and the contact breaker generates a spark.

The only "wiring" is the HT lead to the spark plug.

i'd change the spark plug first.
Then i'd check the points, ensuring the right gap and that there is NO MUCK on them.
Then it's testing output from end of lead back to the pickup.
Then it's pickup off to check it's not worn or bust. Clean the slip ring track
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Postby PeterW » Mon May 13, 2013 8:47 pm

If someone has fitted a cut-out it might be worth checking/discarding that
And where the HT lead goes into the pickup is a common point of failure - often gets damp / loose / etc

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Re: 1950 red hunter - nh

Postby BrianSteytler » Thu May 16, 2013 10:31 am

thanks. i was interested in a diagramme 'cos i frankly know now't about mag/dynos but there is what looks like a grub screw and housing on the lower left hand side of the unit just below the manual a/r cable entry - it has no wire in it so i guess it is not used or maybe its supposed to go to earth?

i was also hoping for a diagramme just in case i need to trace any of the wires in the future.

as far as the 'lost' spark is concerned, the bike was starting/running well but i deceided to change the plug and clean the points in situ using a thin diamond file (set to 15thou) both of which i did and it would not start, taking out the plug there was no spark. left it to the following day to have another go and without doing anything just kicked it over and there was a big blue spark?!? its now starting and running like before - guess this is one of those times when you never get to the bottom of what happened!

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Postby brenton.roy » Thu May 16, 2013 11:37 am

Hi Brian,
The most likely thing is that your points had a bit of crap on them. It doesn't take much.
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Postby bruce.carrad » Thu May 16, 2013 10:23 pm

Hi Brian,
The grub screw in question is for an earth wire to the frame to provide a return for the dynamo current and spark. Should not be necessary as the magdyno is firmly bolted to the engine plate platform but it is provided in case of paint preventing a good earth I think.

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Re: 1950 red hunter - nh

Postby BrianSteytler » Fri May 17, 2013 10:07 am

ok, thanks for the info guys.


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