remove the damper rod ?

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remove the damper rod ?

Postby john.nash » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:14 am

When I put my wreck of a VH back together, I didn't really pay too much attention to the damper as I didn't really need it.
However, now it's got a sidecar on I do.

Trouble is I cannot get it tightened before the threads stop biting. I can even screw out the threaded rod !
I suspect the threads, in the bit at the bottom, as the threads on the end of the rod look ok.

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However, I cannot see how to get the entire assembly out and replace it ? It won't drop out the bottom or lift out...
Please, tell me I don't need to remove the yokes .... I suspect I do as the brass bit has an elongated hole in it ...
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Postby pete.collings » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:37 am

The damper rod is held in place by a cotter type pin through the bottom yoke, drift this out and the rod can be removed.
I can't say I have tried this with everything in place, but so long as you can see the end of the pin, a long drift of the right size should remove the pin, along with a suitably sized hammer (your choice!).

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Re: remove the damper rod ?

Postby adrie.degraaff » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:14 pm

It could be off a girder, they are longer.

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Postby john.nash » Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:41 pm

Does the "pin" run front to back ? I think I can see something there ..

I don't think I have the wrong bits, just that the threads are buggered ..
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Postby pete.collings » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:12 pm

I don't know about steering dampers on girders, but if it is off a tele yoke, I believe the pin runs across rather than front to back.
I have a bottom yoke that I could check if needed, but as it is at the bottom of a pile of other boxes, it would take some effort to get to it. Nevertheless, I would be happy to get it and take a photo, and as the damper has been removed, so the location of the pin should be clear (I hope!)

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Postby pete.collings » Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:16 pm

Having pulled out the yoke to check, it is in fact back to front rather than sideways. I note there was a thread on this topic in February. I have tried to post two pics unsucessfully, will check with admin why there is a problem posting.

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Postby Keith.owen » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:09 pm

HI,
I'm just in the process of doing this myself.

On my machine there is a peg drifted through the botton of the headstock (from front to rear).

This needs drifting out before the damper assembly can eb withdrawn (My machine is a 1950 rigid VH).

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Postby Keith.owen » Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:56 pm

]Hi John,
I just went to the garage and took a look. Sorry, not the headstock but the bottom yoke. As you will see there is a recessed area at the bottom between the 'Y' peice and this is the peg that needs removing. If you don't have one probably a suitable nut and bolt will do the job - not very pretty but it will it will serve the purpose.

I took a picture but am having trouble working out how to attach it.

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Re: remove the damper rod ?

Postby john.nash » Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:03 pm

thanks to Mr collings for these ..

BottomYokePinHole1.gif

BottomYokePinHole2.gif
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Re: remove the damper rod ?

Postby john.nash » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:34 pm

I just removed the pin, in situ (i.e. all the bike assembled).
Carefully removed the powdercoat around the pin. Undid the headlamp bolts, lifted it up and bungeed it to the handlebars; out of the way.
Had a drift the right size, about 3/8", and the pin shifted on about the fourth go and slid out easily.

Brass end of damper removed and, as thought, it's screwed.
New one is in transit somewhere .....

Thanks to everyone for the advice.
When the damper is working again then I can test drive the outfit !
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