Tyre recommendation for VH500

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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby simon.holyfield » Sun Mar 27, 2016 12:19 pm

The Square had the Speedmaster/SM combination on it when I acquired it in boxes - the tyres had to be sawn off. The new Avons went on with hands, feet and bin liners - what you might call 'hand tools'!
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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby Mickypic » Sun Mar 27, 2016 1:52 pm

Simon do you still use the Avon combination? If so how does your bike feel in the corners ?

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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby simon.holyfield » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:08 pm

The jury is still out on that. It feels OK, but I don't feel so confident that I could scrape the footrests at the moment.

The thing is, I have done about 50 miles, all in wet weather since I changed the fork bushes. I hope to get a better feel for it in the coming weeks.

I'm using 28 psi on the front and 24 psi on the rear. It is quite sensitive to ridges in the road.
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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby Steven.Carter » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:13 pm

I've a speed master at the front and the SM at the rear. I've got around 7 thousand miles from the front but the rear is still going great after around 8 thousand miles, it looks good for I reckon around 15 thousand miles which is good value. A Mitas tyre that I had on the rear a few years ago only lasted 5 thousand miles before cracks appeared.
I buy my tyres from local tyre fitter who makes a good job of fitting them. Although he wants to sue Ariel for the term "quickly detachable wheel" I have to remove the wheels now for him :D
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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby dave.owen » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:36 pm

I'm using Avon speedmaster / sm on my 52 vh as no other front tyre available in 20". Not as good as modern rubber but can still get the footrests down when two up.
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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby simon.holyfield » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:25 pm

Steven.Carter wrote:I've a speed master at the front and the SM at the rear. I've got around 7 thousand miles from the front but the rear is still going great after around 8 thousand miles, it looks good for I reckon around 15 thousand miles which is good value. A Mitas tyre that I had on the rear a few years ago only lasted 5 thousand miles before cracks appeared.
I buy my tyres from local tyre fitter who makes a good job of fitting them. Although he wants to sue Ariel for the term "quickly detachable wheel" I have to remove the wheels now for him :D


This is on your Huntmaster Steve?
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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby Steven.Carter » Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:12 pm

Yes, sorry I'd missed that bit out.

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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby Dave.Barkshire » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:14 am

I really like the current Avons (speedmaster 20x3/SM Mk2 19x3.50) on rigid Ariels. These modern Mk2 rear tyres have a rounded profile rather than the old square profile.

They don't last anywhere near as long as the old tyres but they do seem to grip very well. Living on the edge of Exmoor means that I eat rear tyres in no time, maybe 5000 miles max but if you live somewhere normal you should do much better.

Regarding handling, the tyres seem to be very tolerant of pressure variations but I do find that the old published pressures do not seem to work so well in modern tyres and I usually run mine with a bit more air.
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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby Mickypic » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:04 pm

Dave.Barkshire wrote:I really like the current Avons (speedmaster 20x3/SM Mk2 19x3.50) on rigid Ariels. These modern Mk2 rear tyres have a rounded profile rather than the old square profile.

They don't last anywhere near as long as the old tyres but they do seem to grip very well. Living on the edge of Exmoor means that I eat rear tyres in no time, maybe 5000 miles max but if you live somewhere normal you should do much better.

Regarding handling, the tyres seem to be very tolerant of pressure variations but I do find that the old published pressures do not seem to work so well in modern tyres and I usually run mine with a bit more air.

Dave is it possible to upload a pic of the rear tyre profile shape ? On the Internet some look square other like rounder
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Re: Tyre recommendation for VH500

Postby Dave.Barkshire » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:38 am

I'm currently on the other side of the world from my Ariel but found this profile picture of the tyre on the net.
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