New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

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New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby chrisf » Wed Jun 04, 2014 8:56 pm

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Hi, I'm new to Ariel ownership and also to classic British bikes (owned lots of Jap ones previously), so I'm hoping you can help me with my latest project(s). I bought 2 bikes at auction, a BSA M20 to run about on and the Ariel Red Hunter for restoration... although not maybe to factory spec (do I hear cries of shame on you??) as it has been some years ago converted into a trials version.
The bits I would like to bring back to original are the petrol tank and gauges and also the electrics which have been removed, and definitely the handlebars!! I have a magdyno from the period which I'm about to send off for refurb so hope that's a good start point but would be glad of any info / help form people on the forum e.g. I'm pretty sure from googling that the engine from a later model - original engine number on log book is BB255
Anyway, I'll start with a bunch of pictures (if I can) and welcome your feedback and information please...
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Re: New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby robjameson » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:48 pm

You have got a few tricky bits to find for the instrument panel, a pa speedo and the panel light will be expensive if you can find them. Oil pressure gauge and clock you can buy reproductions of good quality. Dependent on the tank as to whether it will take a pa speedo or a chronometric. If it is a pre war bike it should take a pa, and the tank should have a cable tunnel running horizontal and dropping out the bottom right hand corner (near the top of the carb).

Your forks are from a later model, but only the anoraks on here would know that.

You can buy a repro headlamp I think.

Good luck with it, you will find all the info you need on here.
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Re: New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby robjameson » Wed Jun 04, 2014 9:51 pm

Forgot to mention, that magneto won't fit as it is, check if the armature end is tapered, as it will need to be replaced if not. Also the end plate is the wrong one. The correct mag is a lucas MO1L I think.

Perhaps that mag can be modified?
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Re: New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby steve.clarke » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:04 pm

The flat tracker look suits it ,with some lights looks ripe for a ride and restore, some times these rare parts turn up usually just a matter of time.
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Re: New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby nevhunter » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:32 pm

The maggy is correct 6 35 is june 1935. There is the small matter of the correct cylinder head and rocker plates. I had a 36 350 RH that I fitted a later head to, but that was in 1956 and authenticity didn't matter then. Take it easy . You will get there. Nev

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Re: New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby chrisf » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:32 am

Well thanks for the replies already although doesn't fill me with confidence when you guys are saying the parts are like hens teeth to to find :( but I'm in no rush so will just have to bide my time, the 'flat track' look does work well for me, that was part of the appeal I think... but how on earth can you tell the forks are from a later model ?? I think the engine is the same type as original i.e. 350 single OHV but from a 50's bike... see engine number below.
Please keep the comments / feedback and ideas coming, really appreciated.
Thanks
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Re: New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby robjameson » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:16 am

Don't be disheartened by the hard to find bits, you can buy the panel light reproduction and pa speedos meant for cars are easier to come by, and a bit cheaper, you can always put it together with alternative parts and add originals if/when you find them.

I agree that it looks great as it is, but it's your bike, do what you want with it!

The forks have auxiliary springs on them which dates them later than '35. They also have the standard metal clamp to the handlebar, which might mean they are from the military models (although not neccesarily - the length of the blades will determine that)

On the magneto I was looking at the pinion which made me believe it was wrong.
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Re: New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby keith.hodgenia » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:10 pm

Hi Chris, I have a 39 NH that is in competition style, just like yours. It is still a nice bike to ride. You can keep it as it is and enjoy it, then collect the bits to return it to original over time if that is what you want. Keith.

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Re: New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby PeterW » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:45 pm

Mine is a 1950 350 again in similar trim. The pa speedo is too expensive so I've fitted a clock from an old Austin that I had at the back of the garage. Great fun to ride and ideal for a bit of trail riding. Mine is staying pretty much as found, seems a shame to lose 60 years of tweaking :-)

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Re: New Ariel owner with '35 Red Hunter

Postby andyhughesflattankarielpre25 » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:06 pm

The most important thing is that you use it and enjoy it,originality is not allways best,good luck with it ,its great.


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