SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby alan.moore » Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:19 pm

Vincent,
Many thanks.
My VH was 7 1/2 inches between the inner faces of the rear forks ( 8" between the centers of the forks as shown in blue on your diagram).
My WNG was too narrow to get the rear wheel in without splaying the fork ends apart so I have 'adjusted' them with a scissor jack to match my VH (I found that the lower gearbox bolt needed to be in place or the jack just splayed the tubes outwards and then they sprung back). It did not take much force to get the extra bit needed.

Reference the Rigid 4" on the drawing I managed to find the same diagram on the internet and it is labeled 'Rigid Ariel Single and Twin 1947-53. The 4" measurement apparently relates to the rigid frame. There are also other measurements labeled for the twin and single on this drawing:

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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby Damien Towning » Fri May 03, 2019 11:27 am

Hello everyone,

This is my first post here.

For a few days I have been trying to identify a frame I have ( in very sorry condition ) that has been living in a box under my workbench for years.

Been through a few forums now and again to try and identify it.

Yesterday I went to the right place at last and have identified it as a 1928 Ariel frame.

I came across this thread and saw drawings with dimensions ! Does anyone know if I might find such a drawing for this 1928 frame?

I'll post some pictures of the remains of this frame if anyone is interested in seeing the rotten old bones.

The top tube and seat tube would appear to be straight. The rest is rather a disaster. Not bent up so much as in many pieces!

Anyhow any help on where to find some frame dimensions would be much appreciated as I need to build a jig.

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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby Leejm » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:02 pm

Vincent I know of a guy with a set of girder forks. He lives two miles away from me. If he will part with them I don't know but can ask when I see him next!
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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:20 pm

Hi Lee, through my ad in the Cheval I now have a girder fork, but thanks for thinking of me !
But what I am still after is a Terry or Lycett saddle, a prewar Amal 89 carb, a 1" handlebar and a BTH KD1 magneto :shock:

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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby Leejm » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:30 pm

I don't know what else he has. He has the one ariel which is a 38 nh. With a 50 vh engine and 49 forks on it, it's a complete bitsa to be honest. I know for a fact he has girders. Unfortunately I have none of the above. But I know someone else who may!
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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:11 am

Thanks Lee, your help is very much appreciated !

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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby brenton.roy » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:12 am

Hi Vincent, FYI
https://www.arielklub.sk/inzercia/

Handlebar for Ariel 4F, Red Hunter, UK until 1937 ID: 1766
sell handlebars for Ariel motorcycles from 1932-1937
'51,'56 Squares, '48 VH, '27 Model C, R67/2, Mk IV Le Mans, '06 Super Duke and Ariel projects.

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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:27 am

Hello Brenton, Yes thanks, I have seen those. I am trying to find one without the slit for the helix throttle.
I guess they can make me one if wanted.

last week I collected the nuts & bolts from two Ariels at the galvano company.
I had brought the parts on the 17th of april, on the 21 (first easter day) this happened to the plant :

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Luckely the fireman where on time and the storage part was saved, but the administration was gone.
So they where waiting for customers to call as they could not retrace them !

Only a small amount of soot on the outside of my box, I would have had a problem if my stuff was lost.
KH & VH stuff

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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby brenton.roy » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:27 am

Glad you still have your parts Vincent.
That's an impressive amount of smoke..
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Re: SpAriel MkII aka The Hermanator

Postby klaus gerhard » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:52 pm

Hi Vincent,
I ordered a nice saddle for my pre war Ariel some weeks ago from a person in the czech republic. Its of very good quality, all the dimensions to fit to the frame are correct so it should bolt on directly. It has rubber springs instead of metal springs. If you like I can forward some piccies and the contact adress.
Best Klaus


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