'The SpAriel'

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Re: 'The SpAriel'

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Sat Aug 04, 2012 10:48 am

Some progress pictures on the Carbon HS tank.
Kopie van HS carbon.jpg
Kopie van HS carbon (8).jpg

Next job is the glueing in of the bottom part with tapholes for petrol and reserve tap and the two front fixing points.
Then paint and some gold lining.

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Postby brenton.roy » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:16 pm

Hi Vincent, I like the way it mirrors the seat shape from above. Also the front does look Ariel - it almost needs the red side shapes!
Classy.
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Re: 'The SpAriel'

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:05 pm

Yeah! sexy aint't ?

The Red Hunter Red will go onto the tank after the bottom is fixed in place and the inside gets a extra coating to make it all extra-extra resistant to today's 'green' fuels.
From the seats nose I will cover the top of the tank and have the red running down at the front like the thirties tanks.
Knee area and the sides to the front where the Ariel roundel goes stay carbon
I am thinking about a 22K gold leaf lining on the edge of the Red, I have some booklets with leaves left over from a plating job.
I have to find out what kind of (two pack) clear lacker I will have to use to stick the gold on.
Then the whole tank gets a coat of clear (that sadly dulls out the gold a bit but it will look better then with brass based 'gold' paint.)
Or is that over the top? (ha,ha!)
See this nice YouTube pinstriping, One line .....well o.k. , I might be able to get one line on a tank but it wont meet at the other end !! the second thinner line he pulls right next to it, AMAZING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJjJd5yHDY0
Maybe take my tank over there and have him doing it !

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Re: 'The SpAriel'

Postby simon.holyfield » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:13 pm

The tank looks great. Almost 'Ariel meets BSA Starfire'.
cheers

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Re: 'The SpAriel'

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Wed Aug 22, 2012 10:17 pm

Some more carbon tank making process pics.
The two parts need some extra matting put on to fill the gaps here and there...
I used silversoldered brass reinforcements for tap points, front mountings and stiffening plate around 3rd mounting hole at the back.
a.t.m. blind taps are fitted into both petrol tap holes to keep epoxy (or Vinyl Ester) of the threads.

top and bottom part separate.jpg
Top and bottom part separate
bottom part.jpg
front mounting, brass M8 nut silver soldered on small brass disc
bottom in top.jpg
The two parts fitted in eachother held in place with small parkers
plaster mould.jpg
3 piece master mould before use, now broken into several pieces
striping plan.jpg
Plan for the painted -red- top part

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Re: 'The SpAriel'

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:35 am

Not much SpAriel work lately, all attention is going into getting my Prima Donna Featherbed a electric boot.
Har, Har, Har, well...,it's a starter from a American motorcycle, the name eludes me right now.....
The starter ring gear fitted almost without modification (almost...) behind the Steve Maney belt drive.
The engine plates you see on the pic are made from pressed plywood, I've ordered some alloy plate.
Plans are in the pipeline to do this trick (if it works...) to the SpAriel.
I have offered up the starter to the mock-up SpAriel frame and it looks like it will fit behind the central frame member just in front of the rear mudguard.....................

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Norton Featherbed with elec.starter.jpg

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Re: 'The SpAriel'

Postby tonyh » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:58 am

Copy of V twin electrc start 013comp.jpg
Hi Vincent.

I thought you might like a look at this. Its the same set up but turns my home made 1000 v twin easy without using the valve lifter.
I haven't posted a picture before so hope it works.
Tony

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Re: 'The SpAriel'

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:19 am

I was going to comment, had made up a lenghty answer uploaded pictures and....the last one was to big, then the website kicked me out all lost...I now go and do some work, maybe I try later............

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Re: 'The SpAriel'

Postby brenton.roy » Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:27 am

I'm not wanting to hijack Vincent's topic but that's an interesting photo.
Tony - would you mind starting a new topic and telling us a little about your motor?
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Re: 'The SpAriel'

Postby Vincent.vanGinneke » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:47 pm

O.K another try. (dont mind it at all Brenton)
Hello Tony, is this the once started Vtwin (crankcase) from Adrie ?
I remember that one.
Herman Noort & me also made one.........1st of April front cover of the Cheval, way back then!
Anyway, yours is the real McCoy, very good looking !
How did you 'solve' the problem of mounting the belt when both mainshafts are in place & fixed ?
Old Britts made up a belt tensioner to overcome mounting problems. (see pic)
I want to do it like you have in your picture, is it just a case of patience when mounting by wiggling both pulleys home ?
Featherbed on the picture was made by Old Britts for Billy Joel, his got the starter canted forward.
At first I wanted to do the same but found that a elec. connection got in the way of the top gearbox mounting lug.
So I put it on like you have (Old Britts relocate this connection)
Behind the clutch basket I fit a reworked Steve Maney outrigger bearing.
It's turned by 25° to make way for the bendix arrangement, it's welded by now.
Old Britts have the outrigger bearing incorporated into the starter cradle (see pic)

Kopie van outrigger 2.0 (2).jpg
reworked Steve Maney outrigger
OldBritts starter.JPG
belt tensioner
OldBritts starter (2).JPG
Old Britts starter on Featherbed with sloping eng.
BillyJoelNorton1.jpg
Billy Joel Featherbed w. elec boot


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