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Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby LuisPaz » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:31 am

Hi fellows
Six months searching the web for a pair of 6,5 inch drum brake shoes, without success.
John Burgen and Draganfly no stock. Only exchange
Where can I find a pair?
How do you do to get them?
Can they be adapted from another motorcycle manufacturer?
All ideas are welcome ...
Thanks in advance!
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Re: Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby nevhunter » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:48 am

The early W/NG's ones are alloy and interchange with the steel fabricated ones. They just look like a slightly smaller version of the ordinary pre war full sized ones. It's a simple pattern to make and have cast in a reasonable aluminium.. When I've done it, (for earlier AJS bikes) I have made the pattern in wood for TWO shoes cast in one piece as a ring which you drill and spot face for the pivot end turn the outer diameter on a lathe before cutting them carefully to form the individual shoes. Have the linings bonded on conventionally later to match your brake drum size. Nev

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Re: Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby john.whiting » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:29 am

fabricated steel shoes are very easy to make,and get you back on the road ,if nothing else.I think the indian REs had 6.1/2 brakes.....spares used to be very cheap,but havent seen any online for a while now.

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Re: Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby LuisPaz » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:06 pm

john.whiting wrote:fabricated steel shoes are very easy to make,and get you back on the road ,if nothing else.I think the indian REs had 6.1/2 brakes.....spares used to be very cheap,but havent seen any online for a while now.


For your comments I think I'll have to manufacture them.
Will anyone have a couple close by to take some pictures and measurements? :roll:
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Re: Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby nevhunter » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:00 am

The originals (of the steel fabricated kind) are a bit "TRICK" at the pivot end. You could modify that by using a half of a small length of steel tube in place of the original arrangement. Sorry My computer doesn't handle images well but someone will no doubt oblige who is more savvy. Nev

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Re: Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby LuisPaz » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:24 am

Thank you Nev
I found this pics from the web.. i think they are originals...
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Re: Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby ray.tolman » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:28 am

W/NG steel shoes - from rear wheel. 6 3/8"" as marked in red on last photo.
These do look quite different from the photos posted above, so unlikely they fit W/NG front wheel.
You can see how the shoe ends were fabricated for the rear.
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Re: Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby LuisPaz » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:35 am

Thank you for the pics Ray!
Very interesting details!
Simple construction...
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Re: Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby LuisPaz » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:15 am

Today I started preparing the necessary material to make the brake shoes.

I need pics to see details!
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Re: Ariel WNG unobtainable front brake shoes

Postby john.whiting » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:24 am

You ll note that only a few short beads of weld are needed to hold the bits.....incidentally,I made up some new shoes to suit cheap block linings for my old Leyland the same way,and they were 100% successful.....a bigger version of the Girling brake....the design is the same,the shoes can float in the anchors and take up wear.


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