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side stand identification

Postby klaus gerhard » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:11 pm

Dear all,

I am curious which of these sidestands where fitted to which models. I am quite sure that they are both pre 1953, but why is there an extended foot?

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Re: side stand identification

Postby JohnnyBeckett » Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:57 pm

hi maybe the one with the extended foot is for a twin cylinder bike to miss the exhaust :roll:

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Re: side stand identification

Postby simon.holyfield » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:33 pm

The top one is identical to the one fitted to my SQ4. Awful thing, never use it.
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Re: side stand identification

Postby Knud.Degnbol » Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:44 pm

The extended one could look like an welded-on extension.

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Re: side stand identification

Postby Bob.Murphy » Sat Jun 05, 2021 10:28 pm

The one on the right looks very like that on the 1953 MkI Square Four (Coronation Model) that I had back in 1968 - '73.

It was a short stumpy thing with an extended foot. It was so close to the centre line of the bike that the force exerted on it was huge and it would sink into the tarmac on a warm day !

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Re: side stand identification

Postby Roger Gwynn » Sun Jun 06, 2021 12:49 am

Without extension is the original 1948 version, extension was added in 1950 and used to 1952. When we made these at Draganfly I realised that the extension had been made, not by altering the casting but by welding on a piece and so I looked around for something to do the job and found a rear wheel spacer that we had a lot of new old stock that was the right size. It turned out to be the same part that the factory had used.
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Re: side stand identification

Postby simon.holyfield » Sun Jun 06, 2021 7:21 am

Roger Gwynn wrote:Without extension is the original 1948 version, extension was added in 1950 and used to 1952. When we made these at Draganfly I realised that the extension had been made, not by altering the casting but by welding on a piece and so I looked around for something to do the job and found a rear wheel spacer that we had a lot of new old stock that was the right size. It turned out to be the same part that the factory had used.


It appears that I have the wrong one.

Is it worth seeking out the right one? Do they work?
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Re: side stand identification

Postby klaus gerhard » Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:44 am

Thanks for telling me! Both stands came from a bootsale and seem to be NOS. Genuine black Selly Oak enamel!
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Re: side stand identification

Postby jj.palmer » Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:54 am

As Bob stated, too near the centre line of the bike for stability so made my own from a welded consruction, see pics.

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Re: side stand identification

Postby simon.holyfield » Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:24 am

jj.palmer wrote:As Bob stated, too near the centre line of the bike for stability so made my own from a welded consruction, see pics.

John P.


Much better. Does it stick out far when it is up?
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